millennial dada versus mere aestheticism

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  • by Frank Paynter on April 9, 2024

    The Happy Tutor provides tips for satirists. Tom comments:

    Excellent advice from a practicing satirist. This is probably not the place to go into details about how a loose group blog (Meankids) with not even a shared sense that its aim was satire has occasioned every conceivable misconception about its aim, intent, and actual practice.

    One finds, for instance, this sort of thing among the consolers of Ms. Sierra:

    Hi, Kathy, I just heard about your problems. I have had similar problems with these right-wing nutjobs. I hope you find the right thing out there. Perhaps a book is the best way to go.

    This fellow certainly did HIS homework.

    That blog had many obscurities. Many of the posts were not ad hominem. Many were non satiric. There were strange and surreal things, which perhaps would be worth resurrecting (some other day).

    What is difficult to convey is how, in that oblique roomful of voices, fuller than usual because most of the voices were doing more than one voice and the tenor of certain of the posts was someone speaking in character giving the whole thing a pretty radically dialogical pitch and yaw — in that barroom of parodic lunacy, it was often impossible to ascertain who was writing, the tenor of any given post on first reading, and some sort of available context to make sense of things. When one contributor seemed to be gratuitously attacking a specific person, the first thought was not just: “this seems to be unacceptable, nasty stuff,” but, at least for me, a series of questions, like, “is this some sort of joke about hate speech?” “is there some relationship between the writer and the apparent target that would explain why this is considered worthwhile?” etc., questions which took some time to gather meaningful answers because neither the writer nor the target was someone whose work, life, reputation, offered much in the way of clues, and, as noted, the absence of any “purpose” for the blog - other than to not be simply another mindless blog - complicated the interpretive status of much of its contributors’ utterances.

    In short, confronted with what seemed like ugly hateful stuff, and knowing that at least four of the people involved had no truck with that mode of writing, the first response was to wonder what was being aimed at other than mere scurrility. First there was the theatricality of the act of apparent ad hominem writing, then there was the question of how to read it: what was it about? why was it there? was there some undisclosed joke/relation/context? would this become clear via some response? Apparent nastiness is not always nasty, although in this case, it turned out to apparently be just that.

    One other point: Posts and comments that seemed to be pushing some limit were met by other posts and comments that seemed to try to bring the entire brawl onto a different track. I.e., there seemed to be something genuinely dialogical going on, multiple voices very much not in sync, not in harmony, not even intelligible to one another - yet with some vulnerability to the idea that there could be, beyond the immediate surreality, some place this thing wanted to go, and if we were to keep going, something of interest might come of it, something other than the regrettable, distasteful, and abhorrent thing that is now what it is remembered to have been. As usual, much has been obscured in the rumor and retelling.

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    Tree Shapiro 04.09.07 at 9:53

    what color turncoat is the emperor wearing today, mcd?

    Amyloo 04.10.07 at 8:23

    Trying to understand this. Frank, was some hero worship at work here somewhere? I think I read about one of the participants who said he was honored by the invitation to post. It made me wonder if one of the motivations of some players in this might have been to impress you and maybe especially Chris with extreme outrageousness? Kind of a cross between a teenager breaking into a vending machine to impress his girlfriend and an overzealous follower of the Weathermen seeking favor by robbing a liquor store.

    Frank Paynter 04.10.07 at 11:05

    Amyloo, I wonder who that was? It wasn’t me was it? I’m the kind of guy who would say something self-effacingly doofus like that when working with a gaggle of genii.

    Seriously though, I think we were all Bozos on that bus.

    Frank Paynter 04.10.07 at 5:10

    Dave, please go bother someone else for a while. Your reflections remind me of people slowing down on the freeway to get a glimpse of some wreckage. Move along, move along. Nothing to see here.

    McD 04.10.07 at 6:05

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    Shirl 04.11.07 at 10:12

    After years of watching all the raging boys peeps, I think Amyloo is absolutely hitting the nail on the head with her comment. Good thought!

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