In August 1967 three years had passed since Lyndon Johnson’s Gulf of Tonkin charade, the proximate cause for active US engagement in Vietnam, a morass that resulted in 58,184 US combat deaths. As the US entered the fourth year of war, an organized resistance emerged at home, a polarization in public life that informed American politics with the desire for peace and social justice for the next fifteen years.
The election of the senex, Ronald Reagan, put an effective end to those dreams and from that time forward the right wing has consolidated power in the US.
Three years ago it was clear to many of us that the Bush regime had committed a terrible crime and led the US into a war that can’t and won’t be won, led us into a war for combat bases outside of Saudi Arabia to project force into an oil rich area to protect and expand the interests of the global energy corporations. It was clear to us that shadows were falling…
Here’s Doc Searls on my certitude three years ago…
Here’s Frank Paynter on something I said the other day:
A week or so ago Doc Searls responded to this question:
…do you really believe the best thing for the World would be for the US to pull out now and leave one of the cruelest dictorships in modern times at the helm in Iraq, with all the cruel and innocent deaths that would follow in the wake of such a move.
"No,"
Doc said, "I don’t. Now that we’re in there, I want us to finish with
minimal loss of life on all sides. I hope we take out Saddam Hussein’s
regime and return the country to its oppressed people. Then I hope we
go home."And
while Doc’s and Tom’s are the reasonable hopes of peaceful men, I think
things have gone too far. These hopes are impossible. And to wish for
the impossible is delusional. Yet to cast a gimlet eye on the world
stage and to accept that our own country is being held hostage to the
interests of a high caste of modern industrialists whose goals are
being masked by a chase after shadow figures, evil men who frighten
the American electorate in large part because of the images Rupert
Murdoch and his cronies convey of them day after day — to accept this
is enormously difficult. Because with this acceptance comes the
knowledge that right action is required. And the right action that is
required seems so hopeless, so alienated, so out of touch. But Dennis
Kucinich and Tammy Baldwin and Cynthia McKinney and Barbara Lee and the
thirty or so others who can be counted on in Congress to speak truth as
they see it are not sufficient to our cause. And the strongest voices
for peace in the Senate, the Paul Wellstones, the Mel Carnahan’s…
well, they’ve met the same fate as the Kennedy scion in light
plane "accidents."
I wonder what is the next great military challenge Rumsfeld and Bush and
Cheney have in mind for us. I wonder if they even know.Some strong yet subtle shit in there. Deep too. Especially in that last line.
I often wish I could match the certitudes of certidudes like Frank and Andrew and Michael and Charles. But I can’t. Deep down I’m a pacifist, but just as deeply I’m a libertarian too. Go figure.
I think one of our countries greatest losses since Vietnam has been the loss of an understanding of proper governance, the loss of a willingness to entrust public policy to good people who serve us as elected officals and civil servants.
And Doc’s a libertarian. "Go figure." No offense Doc, but we need a better answer than libertarianism.
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Sometimes I think we (us Yanks) are doomed to some kind of hell until we can rise up to a moral size where we can apologize to Viet Nam, and make honest restitution. Throw in El Salvador, Nicaragua, Libya, etc. etc. and now Iraq, and our great, great, great grand children might still be paying off our mess.
I appreciate your writing about your pacifism, and the philosophical quandries it places you in, in these times. It is concept that needs talking about, and I need to hear from those who have held the idea longer then I.
And Doc’s a libertarian. “Go figure.” No offense Doc, but we need a better answer than libertarianism.
Libertarianism is better understood as a path not a destination.
Faced with the choice, would a Libertarian vote for Mark Green, Jim Doyle, or abstain from voting?
I admire you, frank paynter.
“Faced with the choice, would a Libertarian vote for Mark Green, Jim Doyle, or abstain from voting?”
Damfino - go ask one. My vote goes for the Practical Party over ideology anyday.
Ideology sucks - but that’s a rant and not appropriate here.
I think the who votes for whom in the Libertarian party depends on your stance. Left libs might go for Doyle. Right libs for Green. Zealots will vote for whomever the Lib party throws out.
I’m with you on the “ideology sux” part, Brian. Thanks for the kind words, Jeneane.
Frank, I’m ashamed of you! The Libertarian Party’s position, just as the AFSC’s position, just as FGC’s position, just as FCNL’s position, is “Bring the troops home now.” And you think we need something better than that? If we do, then Quakers are not going to be the source of that solution.
Russ, you know the old joke about the economist and the non-economist and the $20 bill? An economist and a non-economist are walking down the street. The non-economist spots a $20 bill on the sidewalk and starts to reach for it. “Don’t bother,” says the economist. “If it were real, somebody would have picked it up already.”
I feel about the economist in the joke the way I feel about “Libertarianism” and pure free market economics. The real world is so much more complex than the intersection of supply and demand curves. (I know, so is Economics.)
So I take a swipe at “Libertarianism” every chance I get. I oversimplify and I paint all of you with the same brush and it’s terribly unfair of me and I’m sorry if it’s somewhat offensive. I admire libertarians for pulling out of a mainstream perspective and asserting strong principles they believe will result in the general betterment of mankind. I don’t share their views on socialized medicine, government income suppports to eliminate poverty, or social engineering programs from the toll on the Golden Gate Bridge to a strongly progressive income tax.
I’m glad to hear that the Libertarian Party wants the troops home now.