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	<title>Comments on: McCain, Bill Ayers, Social Democracy</title>
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		<title>By: Frank Paynter</title>
		<link>http://listics.com/200810204467/comment-page-1#comment-59681</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Paynter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m looking forward to it, Jon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to it, Jon.</p>
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		<title>By: JH</title>
		<link>http://listics.com/200810204467/comment-page-1#comment-59678</link>
		<dc:creator>JH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, frank for taking the time and care to outline the issues in a serious and neutral tone.

I strongly suspect that relatively few people take the time and do the (often fairly hard) work required to get beyond the &quot;I&#039;m on this side, here are the bullet points&quot; stance.

Failure to communicate, indeed.

I&#039;m thinking the book I am about to send you will interest you a lot ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, frank for taking the time and care to outline the issues in a serious and neutral tone.</p>
<p>I strongly suspect that relatively few people take the time and do the (often fairly hard) work required to get beyond the &#8220;I&#8217;m on this side, here are the bullet points&#8221; stance.</p>
<p>Failure to communicate, indeed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking the book I am about to send you will interest you a lot <img src='http://listics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Hitchens</title>
		<link>http://listics.com/200810204467/comment-page-1#comment-59657</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Hitchens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point we should make about Bill Ayers is that yes, he advocated and practiced violent resistence back in the day, but when he finally came in from the cold (and the government -- through prosecutorial misconduct -- allowed him to go free, he turned his life around.  For nearly three decades he&#039;s been in the education business, building a solid reputation in that field.  Isn&#039;t that what all of us, Republican and Democrat alike, wish to see?  Someone who has turned away from the path of violence and become a constructive citizen?  Should not Barack Obama as a practicing Christian find it in his heart to forgive Mr. Ayers his youthful crimes and embrace the man he has become?  For God&#039;s sake, what would Jesus do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point we should make about Bill Ayers is that yes, he advocated and practiced violent resistence back in the day, but when he finally came in from the cold (and the government &#8212; through prosecutorial misconduct &#8212; allowed him to go free, he turned his life around.  For nearly three decades he&#8217;s been in the education business, building a solid reputation in that field.  Isn&#8217;t that what all of us, Republican and Democrat alike, wish to see?  Someone who has turned away from the path of violence and become a constructive citizen?  Should not Barack Obama as a practicing Christian find it in his heart to forgive Mr. Ayers his youthful crimes and embrace the man he has become?  For God&#8217;s sake, what would Jesus do?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Paynter</title>
		<link>http://listics.com/200810204467/comment-page-1#comment-59640</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Paynter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 00:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Amber.  The best piece of journalism I&#039;ve seen explaining why Palin is not qualified to be Vice President comes from The Daily Show.  Granted, I&#039;m inferring a lot about her qualifications from what I see here, nevertheless...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=188638&amp;title=understanding-real-america-in&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=188638&amp;title=understanding-real-america-in&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Amber.  The best piece of journalism I&#8217;ve seen explaining why Palin is not qualified to be Vice President comes from The Daily Show.  Granted, I&#8217;m inferring a lot about her qualifications from what I see here, nevertheless&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=188638&#038;title=understanding-real-america-in" rel="nofollow">http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=188638&#038;title=understanding-real-america-in</a></p>
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		<title>By: Amber in Albuquerque</title>
		<link>http://listics.com/200810204467/comment-page-1#comment-59634</link>
		<dc:creator>Amber in Albuquerque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant post. I work at home (in a bubble) but my husband has people at his office who are voting for McCain/Palin. He&#039;s tried talking to them (they&#039;re regular people, like us)...they make no sense at all. They refuse to admit that Sarah Palin is unqualified to be President and that her chances of doing so (according to insurance actuarial tables) are pretty good. It&#039;s sad and strange that for so many political discussions have become so thought-free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant post. I work at home (in a bubble) but my husband has people at his office who are voting for McCain/Palin. He&#8217;s tried talking to them (they&#8217;re regular people, like us)&#8230;they make no sense at all. They refuse to admit that Sarah Palin is unqualified to be President and that her chances of doing so (according to insurance actuarial tables) are pretty good. It&#8217;s sad and strange that for so many political discussions have become so thought-free.</p>
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		<title>By: fp</title>
		<link>http://listics.com/200810204467/comment-page-1#comment-59631</link>
		<dc:creator>fp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starvation?  Hell the Bush/Cheney pandemic will kill most of us long before starvation sets in.

And yes, what we have in this post is a &quot;failure to communicate.&quot;

otoh, I could eat fifty eggs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starvation?  Hell the Bush/Cheney pandemic will kill most of us long before starvation sets in.</p>
<p>And yes, what we have in this post is a &#8220;failure to communicate.&#8221;</p>
<p>otoh, I could eat fifty eggs.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Alder</title>
		<link>http://listics.com/200810204467/comment-page-1#comment-59622</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Alder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really brings out the old &quot;Cool Hand Luke&quot; sound bite doesn&#039;t it Frank. I had someone similar drop by my place today and leave a message - nothing but GOP talking points.  I don&#039;t think, at this time, it&#039;s possible to communicate with them. If the economy completely tanks and people start dying of starvation, because we don&#039;t live on farms this time like the majority did (or were close to via family or distance) in the 30&#039;s then maybe the light will begin to dawn in some of them - but I wouldn&#039;t get my hopes up for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really brings out the old &#8220;Cool Hand Luke&#8221; sound bite doesn&#8217;t it Frank. I had someone similar drop by my place today and leave a message &#8211; nothing but GOP talking points.  I don&#8217;t think, at this time, it&#8217;s possible to communicate with them. If the economy completely tanks and people start dying of starvation, because we don&#8217;t live on farms this time like the majority did (or were close to via family or distance) in the 30&#8242;s then maybe the light will begin to dawn in some of them &#8211; but I wouldn&#8217;t get my hopes up for it.</p>
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