Comments on: An open letter to Barack Obama http://listics.com/200806244136 “History may only rarely be written by the losers, but it is always written by the writers.” -- David Weinberger Tue, 15 May 2012 01:11:40 +0000 hourly 1 By: Frank Paynter http://listics.com/200806244136/comment-page-1#comment-55954 Frank Paynter Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:34:29 +0000 http://listics.com/?p=4136#comment-55954 Nothing to argue about in the power of that presentation, Zo. I hope he uses his unifying vision and power to organize support for an amendment to the FISA bill stripping telecom immunity, permitting civil litigation as well as criminal prosecution of those who broke the law and those who put them up to it. Obama, a student of Saul Alinsky, knows what it means to organize issue by issue. He understands that change can be influenced as much from the outside as from the inside of th epolitical establishment. He's in awkward spot: at once an insider and an outsider. So it's up to us to remind him, issue by issue, of what we the people require. I'll refer you to Isaiah Chapter 32 for grins, and -- unrelated -- let you know that I was <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gchIPjvIx6k&feature=related" rel="nofollow">listening to this</a> when I turned to the Obama promo in your post. I'm glad I did, I was inspired, but now return to my regular programming. Nothing to argue about in the power of that presentation, Zo. I hope he uses his unifying vision and power to organize support for an amendment to the FISA bill stripping telecom immunity, permitting civil litigation as well as criminal prosecution of those who broke the law and those who put them up to it.

Obama, a student of Saul Alinsky, knows what it means to organize issue by issue. He understands that change can be influenced as much from the outside as from the inside of th epolitical establishment. He’s in awkward spot: at once an insider and an outsider. So it’s up to us to remind him, issue by issue, of what we the people require.

I’ll refer you to Isaiah Chapter 32 for grins, and — unrelated — let you know that I was listening to this when I turned to the Obama promo in your post. I’m glad I did, I was inspired, but now return to my regular programming.

]]> By: zo http://listics.com/200806244136/comment-page-1#comment-55929 zo Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:01:29 +0000 http://listics.com/?p=4136#comment-55929 Let's try this again, Frank. It just ain't that simple. http://www.humorlessbitch.com/2008/07/power-to-people.html Let’s try this again, Frank. It just ain’t that simple.

http://www.humorlessbitch.com/2008/07/power-to-people.html

]]> By: fp http://listics.com/200806244136/comment-page-1#comment-55827 fp Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:40:35 +0000 http://listics.com/?p=4136#comment-55827 He has this week to prove himself a man of his word, a cut above the average politician. If this bill is passed without amendment and without Obama's urging change, then he has underscored the "politics as usual" nature of his candidacy and we might as well have Hillary as our candidate. He has the power to make an issue of this, to affect change now, when it counts. If he doesn't use that power, then he is morally and ethically compromised, his motto chnaged from "Yes we can!!" to "No we won't." He has this week to prove himself a man of his word, a cut above the average politician. If this bill is passed without amendment and without Obama’s urging change, then he has underscored the “politics as usual” nature of his candidacy and we might as well have Hillary as our candidate. He has the power to make an issue of this, to affect change now, when it counts. If he doesn’t use that power, then he is morally and ethically compromised, his motto chnaged from “Yes we can!!” to “No we won’t.”

]]> By: Zo http://listics.com/200806244136/comment-page-1#comment-55806 Zo Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:43:44 +0000 http://listics.com/?p=4136#comment-55806 Now, Frank. I wouldn't be too hasty. See my recent post, http://www.humorlessbitch.com/2008/06/sweetest-things-turn-sourest.html He's just too damn smart. There will be politics (like, There Will Be Blood) and I'm for not second-guessing the guy. I'm also for letting him get himself elected. I know, I know, the bloggo-sphere is hysterical on this one—and I could be wrong (but how often does that happen) but Intuition Speaks. I listen. Now, Frank. I wouldn’t be too hasty.
See my recent post, http://www.humorlessbitch.com/2008/06/sweetest-things-turn-sourest.html

He’s just too damn smart. There will be politics (like, There Will Be Blood) and I’m for not second-guessing the guy. I’m also for letting him get himself elected.

I know, I know, the bloggo-sphere is hysterical on this one—and I could be wrong (but how often does that happen) but Intuition Speaks. I listen.

]]> By: JH http://listics.com/200806244136/comment-page-1#comment-55733 JH Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:11:31 +0000 http://listics.com/?p=4136#comment-55733 "I urge you to take that chance, and if that raises the “national security question” early in your campaign against Senator McCain, so be it. You can’t beat McCain by behaving like him. Stand up for yourself. Stand up for us all. Stand with Senators Dodd and Feingold against the forces of lawlessness. Strike down the telecommunications immunity provisions in H.R. 6304." Indeed .. no better chance to make "Yes, We Can" something real as opposed to just more rhetoric. “I urge you to take that chance, and if that raises the “national security question” early in your campaign against Senator McCain, so be it. You can’t beat McCain by behaving like him. Stand up for yourself. Stand up for us all. Stand with Senators Dodd and Feingold against the forces of lawlessness. Strike down the telecommunications immunity provisions in H.R. 6304.”

Indeed .. no better chance to make “Yes, We Can” something real as opposed to just more rhetoric.

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