Comments on: God Delusion Index http://listics.com/200803173993 Frank Paynter's Voice and Vision... Fri, 05 Sep 2024 04:55:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: madame l http://listics.com/200803173993#comment-53736 madame l Wed, 19 Mar 2024 21:27:16 +0000 http://listics.com/200803173993#comment-53736 the french man has a Huge problem with the english phrase "higher intelligence". we discuss, which may seem like "argue" to others who don't enjoy this sort of thing, the definition often. he thinks the phrase implies a godlike finite thing rendering us pawns. call me thunder dreamer, but i'm leaning toward a brion gysin "3rd mind" (or even sometimes consider a sheldrake "morphic resonance") kind of vibe. don't tell RB. i'll never hear the end of it. there is no god. and there is certainly no god that will save me from being the plumber's ass of his jokes. laughing at the tap tap tapioca analogy, lenore raisin. the video that zo posted that you pointed to affected me (and later the rest of the family) immensely. i have experienced a similar loss of "me-ness" and an increase of a sense of interconnectedness or connectedness of "all that is" when i took some psilocybian mushrooms a long time ago when i was alone and in my 30s, leading me to think that the mushrooms may somehow shutdown or supress the left hemisphere of the brain. i have never felt the urge to take them again. i think i found out all i need to know. i would not recommend taking mushrooms for fun or to get high. that's not what they are for. not everything can be scientifically measured. and to dismiss a theory, that can't yet be defended within au courant acceptable scientific inquiry / method, as crackpot or pseudo-science is like hopping on that galileo merry-go-round with some creepy pope in a dress at the controls all over again. the french man has a Huge problem with the english phrase “higher intelligence”. we discuss, which may seem like “argue” to others who don’t enjoy this sort of thing, the definition often. he thinks the phrase implies a godlike finite thing rendering us pawns. call me thunder dreamer, but i’m leaning toward a brion gysin “3rd mind” (or even sometimes consider a sheldrake “morphic resonance”) kind of vibe. don’t tell RB. i’ll never hear the end of it. there is no god. and there is certainly no god that will save me from being the plumber’s ass of his jokes.

laughing at the tap tap tapioca analogy, lenore raisin.

the video that zo posted that you pointed to affected me (and later the rest of the family) immensely. i have experienced a similar loss of “me-ness” and an increase of a sense of interconnectedness or connectedness of “all that is” when i took some psilocybian mushrooms a long time ago when i was alone and in my 30s, leading me to think that the mushrooms may somehow shutdown or supress the left hemisphere of the brain. i have never felt the urge to take them again. i think i found out all i need to know. i would not recommend taking mushrooms for fun or to get high. that’s not what they are for.

not everything can be scientifically measured. and to dismiss a theory, that can’t yet be defended within au courant acceptable scientific inquiry / method, as crackpot or pseudo-science is like hopping on that galileo merry-go-round with some creepy pope in a dress at the controls all over again.

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By: Frank Paynter http://listics.com/200803173993#comment-53732 Frank Paynter Wed, 19 Mar 2024 18:36:11 +0000 http://listics.com/200803173993#comment-53732 Right. Question 1 and question 5. One of them, the one about the benefits of meditative practice, is obviously true. The other one has enough weasel wording to not be false. Here's what I said about it at One Good Move: <blockquote><b>Do you believe that there exists (or may exist) a higher consciousness or a great intelligence that is somehow associated with the entirety of the universe?</b></blockquote> I answered "yes" because of the weasel wording: "or may exist" and "somehow associated." These phrases leave room for an awful lot of analytic what-iffery. And while I think Ray Kurzweil is batshit crazy regarding his hopes for eternal life through upload of his consciousness to a machine intelligence following an imminent "singularity," that doesn't mean that I dismiss the possibility that some set of imaginary conditions currently beyond the perceptive range of my sensorium and instrumentation may already or someday exist including the freakazoid "higher consciousness." (Although, admittedly I think the pervasive "great intelligence" is about as likely as the possibility that the universe comprises a super-saturated solution of tapioca and the next raisin added to the mixture will condense the entire space-time continuum into a vast all encompassing room temperature glob of pudding.) Right. Question 1 and question 5. One of them, the one about the benefits of meditative practice, is obviously true. The other one has enough weasel wording to not be false. Here’s what I said about it at One Good Move:

Do you believe that there exists (or may exist) a higher consciousness or a great intelligence that is somehow associated with the entirety of the universe?

I answered “yes” because of the weasel wording: “or may exist” and “somehow associated.” These phrases leave room for an awful lot of analytic what-iffery. And while I think Ray Kurzweil is batshit crazy regarding his hopes for eternal life through upload of his consciousness to a machine intelligence following an imminent “singularity,” that doesn’t mean that I dismiss the possibility that some set of imaginary conditions currently beyond the perceptive range of my sensorium and instrumentation may already or someday exist including the freakazoid “higher consciousness.”

(Although, admittedly I think the pervasive “great intelligence” is about as likely as the possibility that the universe comprises a super-saturated solution of tapioca and the next raisin added to the mixture will condense the entire space-time continuum into a vast all encompassing room temperature glob of pudding.)

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By: madame l http://listics.com/200803173993#comment-53730 madame l Wed, 19 Mar 2024 17:24:52 +0000 http://listics.com/200803173993#comment-53730 that's, like, five plus five. that’s, like, five plus five.

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By: Frank Paynter http://listics.com/200803173993#comment-53727 Frank Paynter Wed, 19 Mar 2024 14:43:33 +0000 http://listics.com/200803173993#comment-53727 Me too. Me too.

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By: madame l http://listics.com/200803173993#comment-53725 madame l Wed, 19 Mar 2024 13:06:08 +0000 http://listics.com/200803173993#comment-53725 i got a ten. i got a ten.

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