Comments on: No easy answers, no simple truths… http://listics.com/200712143799 Frank Paynter's Voice and Vision... Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:00:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Mike Golby http://listics.com/200712143799#comment-51671 Mike Golby Sun, 16 Dec 2007 20:34:34 +0000 http://listics.com/200712143799#comment-51671 If the above twelve simple goals were inculcated in American white youth, I believe you'd see as drastic a reduction in the numbers of black youth being stigmatized, marginalized, and criminalized. And no, I don't see black Americans as victims. I see a minority being stigmatized, marginalized, and criminalized by a batshit system loaded in favor of whites hellbent on retaining privilege at any cost. And one way of doing that is to entrap minorities into taking ownership of mindsets perpetuating their enslavement. Black Americans do not need to learn how to be good white boys. They need to fight a vicious, centuries-old system designed to deny them any meaningful future as Americans or citizens of the world. And while they get on with their battle, white activists can best bring about an end to racism by teaching the Villager's values to their kids, among whom such values are conspicuously absent. If the above twelve simple goals were inculcated in American white youth, I believe you’d see as drastic a reduction in the numbers of black youth being stigmatized, marginalized, and criminalized. And no, I don’t see black Americans as victims. I see a minority being stigmatized, marginalized, and criminalized by a batshit system loaded in favor of whites hellbent on retaining privilege at any cost. And one way of doing that is to entrap minorities into taking ownership of mindsets perpetuating their enslavement. Black Americans do not need to learn how to be good white boys. They need to fight a vicious, centuries-old system designed to deny them any meaningful future as Americans or citizens of the world. And while they get on with their battle, white activists can best bring about an end to racism by teaching the Villager’s values to their kids, among whom such values are conspicuously absent.

]]> By: P6 http://listics.com/200712143799#comment-51670 P6 Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:45:23 +0000 http://listics.com/200712143799#comment-51670 <blockquote>The source essay from the Electronic Village that Prometheus 6 analyzes may have some factual errors, and it may perpetuate some myths.</blockquote> Not "may", Frank. DOES have factual errors. DOES perpetuate some myths. Why is that acceptable? How can you plan based on error? Therefore <blockquote>in general don’t they outline a solid programmatic response to a real problem?</blockquote> No. It is based on wrong ideas about Black folk (and I can't call them errors because they have been perpetuated...<i>exactly these ideas</i> have been perpetuated...since the Civil War, leading to "all these problems for all this time." What issue is important to you, personally important, survival important, that you are willing to accept false information on which to build your plans? I'm asking you to rethink this as though it were YOUR problem, or at least the problem of an ally.

The source essay from the Electronic Village that Prometheus 6 analyzes may have some factual errors, and it may perpetuate some myths.

Not “may”, Frank. DOES have factual errors. DOES perpetuate some myths.

Why is that acceptable? How can you plan based on error? Therefore

in general don’t they outline a solid programmatic response to a real problem?

No. It is based on wrong ideas about Black folk (and I can’t call them errors because they have been perpetuated…exactly these ideas have been perpetuated…since the Civil War, leading to “all these problems for all this time.”

What issue is important to you, personally important, survival important, that you are willing to accept false information on which to build your plans?

I’m asking you to rethink this as though it were YOUR problem, or at least the problem of an ally.

]]> By: madame l. http://listics.com/200712143799#comment-51669 madame l. Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:06:45 +0000 http://listics.com/200712143799#comment-51669 "Studies later showed that crack cocaine was no more dangerous than powdered cocaine." no, just cheaper. “Studies later showed that crack cocaine was no more dangerous than powdered cocaine.”
no, just cheaper.

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