Comments on: One to life http://listics.com/20070218922 Frank Paynter's Voice and Vision... Tue, 02 Dec 2024 03:22:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Frank Paynter http://listics.com/20070218922#comment-18294 Frank Paynter Mon, 19 Feb 2024 04:43:48 +0000 http://listics.com/20070218922#comment-18294 Delancey Street is famous for its success, especially helping addicts to get off junk and get on with life. A "felon" who gets popped for a drug transaction, gets taken into the system, survives a year or more inside and then is released on parole will likely be back if she hasn't addressed that fundamental issue of her addiction. Junkies know that "jails, institutions, and death" are the only exits for the practicing addict. Delancey Street shows them other options to fill half that glass with while they're digging out of the deviant junk culture. There are other ways to do it too. Delancey Street is famous for its success, especially helping addicts to get off junk and get on with life. A “felon” who gets popped for a drug transaction, gets taken into the system, survives a year or more inside and then is released on parole will likely be back if she hasn’t addressed that fundamental issue of her addiction.

Junkies know that “jails, institutions, and death” are the only exits for the practicing addict. Delancey Street shows them other options to fill half that glass with while they’re digging out of the deviant junk culture.

There are other ways to do it too.

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By: Frank Paynter http://listics.com/20070218922#comment-18291 Frank Paynter Mon, 19 Feb 2024 04:30:19 +0000 http://listics.com/20070218922#comment-18291 Doug, the book's online, linked above. Read the "Decarceration" chapter. They estimate that we have to protect ourselves from about ten percent of the inmates... that would mean I guess that there are maybe 2300 really evil fucks in Wisconsin who are in there and can't be cut free. Maybe she's wrong about the 10% maybe it is more like 50%, but there is a sameness to incarceration that grinds away the the humanity of the prisoner. Like the war, if we don't encounter what's wrong out there, we are complicit. The book may be simplistic, grandiose in its intentions and short on a well mapped out implementation scheme, but what it does do is drive a stake in the ground regarding a truly ethical, humanitarian justice system. Doug, the book’s online, linked above. Read the “Decarceration” chapter. They estimate that we have to protect ourselves from about ten percent of the inmates… that would mean I guess that there are maybe 2300 really evil fucks in Wisconsin who are in there and can’t be cut free. Maybe she’s wrong about the 10% maybe it is more like 50%, but there is a sameness to incarceration that grinds away the the humanity of the prisoner. Like the war, if we don’t encounter what’s wrong out there, we are complicit.

The book may be simplistic, grandiose in its intentions and short on a well mapped out implementation scheme, but what it does do is drive a stake in the ground regarding a truly ethical, humanitarian justice system.

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By: Kathy Sierra http://listics.com/20070218922#comment-18290 Kathy Sierra Mon, 19 Feb 2024 04:17:46 +0000 http://listics.com/20070218922#comment-18290 The Delancey Street Foundation apparently has an amazing success rate: http://www.eisenhowerfoundation.org/grassroots/delancey/ Which I first heard about in this Fast Company article "Change or Die" http://www.fastcompany.com/articles/2007/01/change-or-die.html [he just released a new book of the same title that has more details about Delancey] Key points: "in a dept. of justice study in 2024, they found that 30 percent of former inmates were rearrested within six months, and 67.5 percent of them were rearrested within three years. Most of the repeat offenders were felons. Psychologists and criminologists have come to share the belief that most criminals can't change their lives. " and... "After staying at Delancey for four years, most of the residents "graduate" and go out on their own into the greater society. Nearly 60 percent of the people who enter the program make it through and sustain productive lives on the outside. While the criminal justice system watches more than six out of ten convicts return to crime, Delancey turns nearly as many into lawful citizens. How, exactly? What's the psychology behind transforming the most hopeless 1 percent of society, the ones who experts believe are incapable of change?" The I'm-greatly-oversimplifying-here conclusion of Delancey (and the book) is that it's about a specific combination of hope and practice. [hate to say it Frank, but there's a bit of half-glass-full in there, but with a twist you might like...] The Delancey Street Foundation apparently has an amazing success rate:
http://www.eisenhowerfoundation.org/grassroots/delancey/

Which I first heard about in this Fast Company article “Change or Die”
http://www.fastcompany.com/articles/2007/01/change-or-die.html

[he just released a new book of the same title that has more details about Delancey]

Key points: “in a dept. of justice study in 2024, they found that 30 percent of former inmates were rearrested within six months, and 67.5 percent of them were rearrested within three years. Most of the repeat offenders were felons. Psychologists and criminologists have come to share the belief that most criminals can’t change their lives. ”

and…

“After staying at Delancey for four years, most of the residents “graduate” and go out on their own into the greater society. Nearly 60 percent of the people who enter the program make it through and sustain productive lives on the outside. While the criminal justice system watches more than six out of ten convicts return to crime, Delancey turns nearly as many into lawful citizens. How, exactly? What’s the psychology behind transforming the most hopeless 1 percent of society, the ones who experts believe are incapable of change?”

The I’m-greatly-oversimplifying-here conclusion of Delancey (and the book) is that it’s about a specific combination of hope and practice.
[hate to say it Frank, but there's a bit of half-glass-full in there, but with a twist you might like...]

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By: Doug Alder http://listics.com/20070218922#comment-18287 Doug Alder Mon, 19 Feb 2024 03:56:39 +0000 http://listics.com/20070218922#comment-18287 I'm curious - if she wants to abolish prisons then how do we protect ourselves against the truly sociopathic and/or psychopathic criminals? I’m curious - if she wants to abolish prisons then how do we protect ourselves against the truly sociopathic and/or psychopathic criminals?

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