Comments on: Cornell Theory Center? http://listics.com/20070126882 Frank Paynter's Voice and Vision... Tue, 02 Dec 2024 03:45:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Frank Paynter http://listics.com/20070126882#comment-14559 Frank Paynter Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:53:57 +0000 http://listics.com/20070126882#comment-14559 Yes, Brian... what Mr. Scruggs said. My tongue was in my cheek. I strongly support "science." Scientific method, rational processes, consistent methodologies and openness to fresh perspectives to problem definition and resolution provide an underlayment of objectivity in the academic disciplines comprising math and science. Looking around me in this office, observing the aluminum cans, the ceramic mugs, the flat panel displays, the audio outputs, the bound volumes, the digital media, the printer, the router, the lamps, the primary-school pasta art hanging on the wall -- it's adhesive still strong twenty years after its creation -- I think we've done well for ourselves as a species elaborating scientific theory and applying it. In general I think I object to "-isms" and "-ists" of all stripes and flavors, although I have to admit to occasionally picking favorites. Ideologies are awful, and I include communism, fascism, capitalism, postmodernism, and objectivism in that blanket assertion. "Theoreticism" and "scientism" are quite obviously awful too. (And thank you for linking to John Emerson's piece, J. Alva.) Yes, Brian… what Mr. Scruggs said. My tongue was in my cheek.

I strongly support “science.” Scientific method, rational processes, consistent methodologies and openness to fresh perspectives to problem definition and resolution provide an underlayment of objectivity in the academic disciplines comprising math and science. Looking around me in this office, observing the aluminum cans, the ceramic mugs, the flat panel displays, the audio outputs, the bound volumes, the digital media, the printer, the router, the lamps, the primary-school pasta art hanging on the wall — it’s adhesive still strong twenty years after its creation — I think we’ve done well for ourselves as a species elaborating scientific theory and applying it.

In general I think I object to “-isms” and “-ists” of all stripes and flavors, although I have to admit to occasionally picking favorites. Ideologies are awful, and I include communism, fascism, capitalism, postmodernism, and objectivism in that blanket assertion. “Theoreticism” and “scientism” are quite obviously awful too.

(And thank you for linking to John Emerson’s piece, J. Alva.)

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By: Scruggs http://listics.com/20070126882#comment-14526 Scruggs Sat, 27 Jan 2024 06:57:22 +0000 http://listics.com/20070126882#comment-14526 A shorter version might be, Frank objects to theoreticism in the critique of culture and literature as much as he would object to scientism in the pursuit of science. A shorter version might be, Frank objects to theoreticism in the critique of culture and literature as much as he would object to scientism in the pursuit of science.

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By: Scruggs http://listics.com/20070126882#comment-14525 Scruggs Sat, 27 Jan 2024 06:51:16 +0000 http://listics.com/20070126882#comment-14525 Brian, I think Frank's objection -- hence the sarcastic quotes -- is pretty close to <a href="http://www.idiocentrism.com/phil.adorno.htm" rel="nofollow">this fellow's</a>, and is not a rejection of the process you outline. Brian, I think Frank’s objection — hence the sarcastic quotes — is pretty close to this fellow’s, and is not a rejection of the process you outline.

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By: brian http://listics.com/20070126882#comment-14521 brian Sat, 27 Jan 2024 06:18:03 +0000 http://listics.com/20070126882#comment-14521 Frank I think you're not appreciating that (and this is coming from a guy well outside academic circles) science is theory. It's all about hypothesis, testing, validation and not accepting anything as dogma. If you're asking Cornell to ditch all of that in favor of 'science' then 'science 'might as well be faith with it's own dogma, which adherents disprove at great cost. Aint' nothing wrong with theory. It's how we got here - and we're hardly the pinnacle of what our species will achieve. Frank I think you’re not appreciating that (and this is coming from a guy well outside academic circles) science is theory.

It’s all about hypothesis, testing, validation and not accepting anything as dogma. If you’re asking Cornell to ditch all of that in favor of ’science’ then ’science ‘might as well be faith with it’s own dogma, which adherents disprove at great cost.

Aint’ nothing wrong with theory. It’s how we got here - and we’re hardly the pinnacle of what our species will achieve.

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By: Scruggs http://listics.com/20070126882#comment-14496 Scruggs Sat, 27 Jan 2024 00:38:18 +0000 http://listics.com/20070126882#comment-14496 Critical Theory is the first, ever, field of study to contain its own full critique, to actually <i>be</i> its own critique -- rendering other examinations and, indeed, other perspectives entirely superfluous. It is analyst and analysand <a href="http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c294/sammyretten/99ab38ee.jpg" rel="nofollow">perfectly united</a>. As such, the attention of academia is harmful to it. Parodoxically, the more it is formally studied, the less there is. Critical Theory is the first, ever, field of study to contain its own full critique, to actually be its own critique — rendering other examinations and, indeed, other perspectives entirely superfluous. It is analyst and analysand perfectly united. As such, the attention of academia is harmful to it. Parodoxically, the more it is formally studied, the less there is.

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