Comments on: If Murry Gunty didn’t exist we’d have to invent him http://listics.com/20060802438 We're beginning to notice some improvement. Thu, 11 Feb 2024 05:48:58 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.5.3 By: Frank Paynter http://listics.com/20060802438/comment-page-1#comment-5100 Wed, 04 Oct 2024 01:31:02 +0000 http://listics.com/20060802438#comment-5100 I respect the viewpoint expressed in the recent comment from Mr. Doewitz, and while the comment was delivered from an IP address belonging to a relatively successful $10 billion fifteen year old hedge fund based in Dallas, Texas, I am unable to verify any other details regarding his identity, or — indeed — his existence. He is an anonymous online presence.

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By: John Doewitz http://listics.com/20060802438/comment-page-1#comment-5099 Wed, 04 Oct 2024 01:08:06 +0000 http://listics.com/20060802438#comment-5099 It’s ironic what Flanagan and Schwartz say about Gunty, because everyone that knows the two of them think they are complete morons with no ethics and that they sleep with farm animals (especially Schwartz, or perhaps that is his wife). Isn’t this all a bit ridiculous? Frank, why exactly do you respect their viewpoints? Can someone say anything they want at all without any evidence and you will respect it? Don’t they seem to have an extreme point of view that might compromise the respect their comments deserve?

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By: Frank Paynter http://listics.com/20060802438/comment-page-1#comment-5092 Tue, 03 Oct 2024 16:00:21 +0000 http://listics.com/20060802438#comment-5092 I respect the viewpoints expressed in recent comments from Flanagan and Schwartz (above). I am however unable to verify the substance of their negative assertions regarding Mr. Gunty and his present performance at Milestone and it is worth noting that their online presence is in each case essentially anonymous.

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By: Teddy Flanagan http://listics.com/20060802438/comment-page-1#comment-5091 Tue, 03 Oct 2024 15:35:05 +0000 http://listics.com/20060802438#comment-5091 Look, Pincus is highlighting a guy whose ethics are completely dubious. It is an interesting experiment to see if a tiger changes its stripes. Let me tell you that I know for a fact Milestone is a powder keg. The guy has done things there that will eventually come to light and that are consistent with his former behavior. All those who know him despise him and his partners stay with him only because he writes checks with dirty money to those he needs to keep. He surrounds himself with scoundrels that only care about the dollar, but they loath him too. He is unanimously despised by all of his counterparts at Milestone and when the truth and shit hits the fan, they’ll all go running and he’ll have to face the music himself. His own actions will destroy him, not this blog.

Gunty is very important, because it shows how are highest level of academic institutions will continue to support people of dubious character who then go out in the world and steal and cheat. In this day and age, could there be anything more important in the business community? All who know the guy think he’s an aweful human being; lawyers, deal guys, bankers, but he pays them and apparently that’s what matters, right? Honor, ethics, loyalty? These are meaningless in a world of Murry Gunty. Is this the kind of guy, or the type of people, we feel HBS should push out into the world? They should be ashamed, because he certainly isn’t.

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By: Listics - Frank Paynter’s Voice and Vision… » Washington Post article referencing the Murry Gunty matter http://listics.com/20060802438/comment-page-1#comment-5062 Mon, 02 Oct 2024 21:49:34 +0000 http://listics.com/20060802438#comment-5062 […] If anything about the article annoys me, it is not so much the cluelessness regarding web publishing contextual matters, terms of art and so forth, but rather O’Hara’s selection of my header as the pull quote from my post. I thought my post was carefully wrought. I tried to avoid inflammatory rhetoric, and qualified what I wrote. Over the last few months I have moderated and discarded a couple of comments that came my way because I couldn’t verify their substance and they seemed unfair to Mr. Gunty. The fact that I used an attention grabbing headline has come back to bite me. It’s all that O’Hara found interesting in my blog post! […]

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By: Bob Schwartz http://listics.com/20060802438/comment-page-1#comment-4856 Thu, 21 Sep 2024 19:49:58 +0000 http://listics.com/20060802438#comment-4856 It’s hard for hundreds of former employees to believe that a $52,000,000/year company could become a $15,000,000/year company in less than three years, but under Milestone Capital DC we did.

Say goodbye to a one-time good company (Rauch Industries, Gastonia, NC.

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By: mark pincus http://listics.com/20060802438/comment-page-1#comment-3557 Mon, 07 Aug 2024 06:01:06 +0000 http://listics.com/20060802438#comment-3557 wow. so cool to see how nicely this was all laid out and the intelligent dialog around it.

honestly, i was just rambling one day on an airplane on my blackberry, pissed off at a world that celebrates and elevates a murry gunty while leaving so many more deserving souls behind. i’ll also admit that it is fun for me to see this story get all this attention now.

as for six apart, that’s a tough call for me. they were wrong and i applaud them for so quickly admitting it but i do worry about the people who get a terms of service violation note and dont know they can say fuck off. 6A should affirm in their TOS that they have no right to remove any of my content.

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By: Frank Paynter http://listics.com/20060802438/comment-page-1#comment-3361 Thu, 03 Aug 2024 11:51:54 +0000 http://listics.com/20060802438#comment-3361 Charles, I swiped the teacher’s textbook and it has all the answers transcribed in it. There is a reference to Baby Gunty… will the truth set him/her free, or merely sour an otherwise idyllic upper class family life? And who am I to mess with people’s lives like that? And shouldn’t the photographer intervene to save the life of the insurgent about to be executed rather than going for the Pulitzer prize winning shot?

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By: Charles Follymacher http://listics.com/20060802438/comment-page-1#comment-3360 Thu, 03 Aug 2024 11:45:14 +0000 http://listics.com/20060802438#comment-3360 Hmm, tough one. I’m waiting til we get to the review section at the back of the chapter before attempting to answer this excercise question: “So, who are we to feel sorry for, again?”

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By: Frank Paynter http://listics.com/20060802438/comment-page-1#comment-3359 Thu, 03 Aug 2024 11:21:02 +0000 http://listics.com/20060802438#comment-3359 Scott, I’m glad you dropped in to shed more light on Murry Gunty. Since I know you, and since everything Mark said was pretty much corroborated by online sources, I was ready to open up and post about this, even though I have no direct knowledge other than online sources.

For me, the meat in this material is that a guy like Murry Gunty tried to get to a blogger through the service provider (SixApart) in order to control information. SixApart self corrected with a pretty quick “oops, our bad,” but the fact of their intitial contact remains. And that contact was an attempt to dumb down the quality of info that bloggers provide by asserting terms service that would prevent identifying real people in blog postings that appear controversial.

I was circumspect, selective in my choice of information to include in this post, not mentioning for example the ironic circumstances that Murry Gunty and his wife support Sidwell Friends School, a private school in the Bethesda and DC areas that purports to “prize diversity” and to inculcate “Quaker values” while actually drawing children of privilege away from the public school system and thereby diluting the quality of public education.

My writing was cautious and attempted self-protectively to draw a line between what we know and what we infer, because while the truth is a defense against libel, who wants to have to defend himself?

Everything I’ve presented is second hand and/or derived from source materials found only on the web. My post could therefore be taken as the first mutterings of an angry mob of swift boat style true believers and discredited for that.

Yet, if we are to shine the light of critical scrutiny on Michael Milken or the Nazi Pope, must we not also criticize Murry Gunty?

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