Comments on: Plaxo http://listics.com/200502012490 Frank Paynter's Voice and Vision... Sun, 21 Oct 2024 01:50:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3 By: Ken Camp http://listics.com/200502012490#comment-48076 Ken Camp Mon, 23 May 2024 20:59:06 +0000 http://listics.com/200502012490#comment-48076 Scrolling through some old things I wound up back here wondering why the Plaxo person never ever came back or followed up. I see someone decided to troll but didn't leave their name or contact info. For posterity only Frank (sorry to clutter your space), Plaxo may be useful to some. From my view it remains a non-event. Irrelevant and not useful. That's a general consensus in my circles, but your mileage may vary. If you work at Plaxo, your mileage will vary certainly. By policy, Plaxo remains persona no grata on the systems and networks I oversee. It would take some significant relevance in our real world for anyone to consider revisting. And now I've finished my revisitation of old dead threads for the week. ;-) Scrolling through some old things I wound up back here wondering why the Plaxo person never ever came back or followed up. I see someone decided to troll but didn’t leave their name or contact info.

For posterity only Frank (sorry to clutter your space), Plaxo may be useful to some. From my view it remains a non-event. Irrelevant and not useful. That’s a general consensus in my circles, but your mileage may vary. If you work at Plaxo, your mileage will vary certainly.

By policy, Plaxo remains persona no grata on the systems and networks I oversee. It would take some significant relevance in our real world for anyone to consider revisting.

And now I’ve finished my revisitation of old dead threads for the week. ;-)

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By: Yeah Right http://listics.com/200502012490#comment-48075 Yeah Right Sat, 05 Mar 2024 04:23:29 +0000 http://listics.com/200502012490#comment-48075 ---------------------------- "...a lot of urban myths about Plaxo..." ---------------------------- Why is it that I only am hearing GOOD things about Plaxo FROM Plaxo or their workers/affiliates/etc... The internet searching that I have done seems to turn up mostly negative things regarding Plaxo and other similar services but the only real good come DIRECTLY from the company itself? Don't get me wrong here, this is not an attack. Just a well educated person making an interesting observation. I also find it interesting that "Ken Camp's" post on February 2, 2024 03:21 AM indicates a fair willingness to show the "Evil Side" of plaxo to at least one person and makes no secret (thanks to his post), that he has "seen Plaxo used directly as the distribution tool for malicious stuff", but after Plaxo's employee posts his defense of the service, Ken then seems have changed his tune. Whats the matter Ken? Afraid that Plaxos paid Blog sniffer will stick your name in a spam listing? —————————-
“…a lot of urban myths about Plaxo…”
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Why is it that I only am hearing GOOD things about Plaxo FROM Plaxo or their workers/affiliates/etc…

The internet searching that I have done seems to turn up mostly negative things regarding Plaxo and other similar services but the only real good come DIRECTLY from the company itself?

Don’t get me wrong here, this is not an attack. Just a well educated person making an interesting observation.

I also find it interesting that “Ken Camp’s” post on February 2, 2024 03:21 AM indicates a fair willingness to show the “Evil Side” of plaxo to at least one person and makes no secret (thanks to his post), that he has “seen Plaxo used directly as the distribution tool for malicious stuff”, but after Plaxo’s employee posts his defense of the service, Ken then seems have changed his tune.
Whats the matter Ken? Afraid that Plaxos paid Blog sniffer will stick your name in a spam listing?

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By: Ken Camp http://listics.com/200502012490#comment-48074 Ken Camp Wed, 02 Feb 2024 19:59:28 +0000 http://listics.com/200502012490#comment-48074 Thanks for the comments Rick, and let me second that Plaxo is an honest and reputable company that does not do wrong in this environment. If I implied that, it was in haste during my busy day. What Plaxo does is make it very easy for users to extend the "chain of trust" in their email by how information is shared. User education is key and it's very easy for users to assume things are safe and secure on their own systems that are not. The issue is with end user security, awareness and education, not the Plaxo product in and of itself. I personally discourage Plaxo for reasons of user knowledge and education. I see value in the idea, but in my real world of thousands of naive users, it has proven problematic more than once. It's not my role to set the policy and I don't even provide user level support. My focus is the network architecture. Thanks for the comments Rick, and let me second that Plaxo is an honest and reputable company that does not do wrong in this environment. If I implied that, it was in haste during my busy day.

What Plaxo does is make it very easy for users to extend the “chain of trust” in their email by how information is shared. User education is key and it’s very easy for users to assume things are safe and secure on their own systems that are not. The issue is with end user security, awareness and education, not the Plaxo product in and of itself.

I personally discourage Plaxo for reasons of user knowledge and education. I see value in the idea, but in my real world of thousands of naive users, it has proven problematic more than once. It’s not my role to set the policy and I don’t even provide user level support. My focus is the network architecture.

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By: rikk carey http://listics.com/200502012490#comment-48073 rikk carey Wed, 02 Feb 2024 17:27:10 +0000 http://listics.com/200502012490#comment-48073 I work at Plaxo and have been here since the beginning. There are a lot of urban myths about Plaxo that have been spread (and I wished that Snopes.com would look into them ;). If you dig down on Plaxo, you will find that we are an honest company that is trying to solve a real problem and that we have one of the strictest privacy policies on the Internet. I have posted numerous times about this on a variety of blogs, so I won't repeat myself here. The one valid criticism of Plaxo is that some of our users send update requests to people that they barely know. This is not good for anyone (including Plaxo) and we are trying our best to educate users on this issue. I would welcome any ideas on this topic. We have a ZERO TOLERANCE policy for spammers on our service. Note that Plaxo offers a simple way for anyone to block update requests. So, if you don't want people sending update requests to you, go to: http://www.plaxo.com/opt-out There is no truth to rumors about Plaxo messages containing viruses -- this is patently false. People should be more careful before making damaging comments like this. I would love to hear Mr. Camp's "supporting background on the evil side of that equation..." So, while there is a vocal minority that enjoys the conspiracy theories about Plaxo, we have a vibrant community of 5M users that use the service responsibly and appreciate its value. And, we are dedicated to constantly improving the service for both members and non-members. Rikk Carey Plaxo, Inc. rikk@plaxo.com I work at Plaxo and have been here since the beginning. There are a lot of urban myths about Plaxo that have been spread (and I wished that Snopes.com would look into them ;). If you dig down on Plaxo, you will find that we are an honest company that is trying to solve a real problem and that we have one of the strictest privacy policies on the Internet. I have posted numerous times about this on a variety of blogs, so I won’t repeat myself here.

The one valid criticism of Plaxo is that some of our users send update requests to people that they barely know. This is not good for anyone (including Plaxo) and we are trying our best to educate users on this issue. I would welcome any ideas on this topic. We have a ZERO TOLERANCE policy for spammers on our service.

Note that Plaxo offers a simple way for anyone to block update requests. So, if you don’t want people sending update requests to you, go to: http://www.plaxo.com/opt-out

There is no truth to rumors about Plaxo messages containing viruses — this is patently false. People should be more careful before making damaging comments like this.

I would love to hear Mr. Camp’s “supporting background on the evil side of that equation…”

So, while there is a vocal minority that enjoys the conspiracy theories about Plaxo, we have a vibrant community of 5M users that use the service responsibly and appreciate its value. And, we are dedicated to constantly improving the service for both members and non-members.

Rikk Carey
Plaxo, Inc.
rikk@plaxo.com

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By: Ken Camp http://listics.com/200502012490#comment-48072 Ken Camp Wed, 02 Feb 2024 03:21:31 +0000 http://listics.com/200502012490#comment-48072 I definitely have some supporting background on the evil side of that equation Frank. If you want details, drop me a note, but I've seen Plaxo used directly as the distribution tool for malicious stuff. Verbotten in my networks. I definitely have some supporting background on the evil side of that equation Frank. If you want details, drop me a note, but I’ve seen Plaxo used directly as the distribution tool for malicious stuff. Verbotten in my networks.

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